Where the Line goes (KS+ZE)

The dialogue below is a transcript of our conversation between the transcriptor (KS), who is interested in graffiti, and a friend (ZE) who is actually bombing.

Our exchange took place in March 2019, two months after Yuriko Koike, Tokyo Governor, mentioned Banksy via Skype.


Tokyo Governor, Banksy, and Muji (無印良品 Mujirushi Ryōhin)

KS: Thank you for today. I would like to go directly to the main topic. The other day, Tokyo Governor Yuriko Koike posted a stencil that seems to be Banksy's on the Internet with a photo and a comment that says "A gift to Tokyo?". After that, they keep it in the warehouse in Tokyo. What did you think when you heard this news?

ZE: I was amazed by the political nose of Koike, who reacted vividly to Banksy's kind of populist strategy. Of course it means ironically. At the same time, if you become a writer as famous as Banksy, you're going to be able to bypass society's reactions to graffiti like wall erasures and fines and the city will protect you right away (laughs). The writers had mixed feelings of love and hate about the Banksy Wall, but in this case, Koike gave the certification that Banksy was completely unrelated to them (laughs). I think it was an incident where we unexpectedly decided to frame up Banksy as something not cool via Koike's decision.

KS: 

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D'ailleurs, c'est toujours les autres qui meurent.

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